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Four 12s in a row?!?! ????

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Specializes in Med-surg/tele. Has 7 years experience.

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Seeking commiseration and chocolate, will accept honest?assessments of whether I'm being a total princess about this. ??

Just got my schedule for the next few weeks, and I got scheduled to work four 12s in a row?that I in no way, shape, or form requested. Now, I am an absolute bear after three in a row, especially now that I've got a practicum for my MSN to schedule into the mix. I prefer to spread my shifts out a little bit -?work two, off one or two, then work one or two, etc. - but I know I'm not the only person my manager is trying to accommodate while staffing the unit,?so I totally get it when?I don't get what I requested sometimes. That said, I've never done four in a row, and my past managers typically never scheduled them unless someone specifically requested it.

I'm not gonna make a big stink about it, though I may see if anyone is willing to trade a shift so I can get a little break somewhere in there. Just curious, especially from managers or unit coordinators - do you often schedule staff for four in a row if they didn't request it? Does anyone LIKE having them all packed together like that? I am honestly dreading the whole thing, especially since our unit is super small with a lot of us in clinicals, so I doubt anyone is going to be able to switch. ??

TheMoonisMyLantern, ADN, LPN, RN

Specializes in Mental health, substance abuse, geriatrics, PCU. Has 14 years experience.

I found after 3 12's any additional ones kind of breeze by because I'm in my groove by then. But once I finally do have a day off, I crash hard. Good luck to you, at least your paychecks will be nice and fat!

SilverBells, BSN

Specializes in Rehab/Nurse Manager. Has 6 years experience.

Four shifts in a row can be very tiresome, and I know as a floor nurse, I used to avoid them unless I absolutely could avoid it.? ?Three in a row are tough enough.??

With that said, I do believe our staffing coordinator does her best to ensure the nurses working 12-hour shifts don't work more than three in a row unless they specifically request it or agree to sign up for it.? Sometimes, with holidays, it's not always possible to avoid four 12's in a row.? But I think most managers/staffers realize that so many 12's in a row can be very exhausting and do their best to avoid that.?

NightNerd, BSN, RN

Specializes in Med-surg/tele. Has 7 years experience.

12 minutes ago, TheMoonisMyLantern said:

I found after 3 12's any additional ones kind of breeze by because I'm in my groove by then. But once I finally do have a day off, I crash hard. Good luck to you, at least your paychecks will be nice and fat!

I wish, it's arranged so there's not a cent of overtime (two shifts are over a weekend)! I do find that if I get a group of patients I mesh with, three in a row isn't too awful - but definitely still tiring.

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Davey Do

Specializes in around 25 years psych, 10 years medical. Has 42 years experience.

1 hour ago, NightNerd said:

?Seeking commiseration and chocolate...

I am an absolute bear after three in a row

Commiseration given, NightNerd.

At Wrongway Regional Medical Center in the Summer of '19, when I was called into a meeting with my supervisor and HR after my three 12 hour MN shifts, I gave them "The Look" and said, three separate times, "You call me into a meeting after I've worked...:

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As far as the chocolate, all I have for you is something similar of which you're getting:

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NightNerd, BSN, RN

Specializes in Med-surg/tele. Has 7 years experience.

On 2/2/2021 at 6:39 PM, Davey Do said:

Commiseration given, NightNerd.

At Wrongway Regional Medical Center in the Summer of '19, when I was called into a meeting with my supervisor and HR after my three 12 hour MN shifts, I gave them "The Look" and said, three separate times, "You call me into a meeting after I've worked...:

As far as the chocolate, all I have for you is something similar of which you're getting:

Gotta love those conveniently scheduled meetings turning a 12 into a 13.5! Or classes that start at 11 am between shifts...?? I miss nights a lot of the time, but that's one thing I'm doing okay without right now.

TheMoonisMyLantern, ADN, LPN, RN

Specializes in Mental health, substance abuse, geriatrics, PCU. Has 14 years experience.

1 hour ago, NightNerd said:

I wish, it's arranged so there's not a cent of overtime (two shifts are over a weekend)! I do find that if I get a group of patients I mesh with, three in a row isn't too awful - but definitely still tiring.

Okay, now that sucks. I'd be ticked to be doing 4 in a row and not be?getting OT from it!

Sour Lemon

Has 9 years experience.

Two in a row was my absolute limit when I worked full time. I’ve never had an employer who routinely?scheduled staff for more than that unless they knew that person preferred it.?
I did get scheduled for three shifts in a row once upon a time, but I let them know right away that I would be feeling sick by the third day- for sure. They changed it.?

Sue Damonas, BSN

Specializes in Cardiology, Oncology, Hospice,IV Therapy. Has 39 years experience.

Davey Do I'm crying with laughter after seeing the feces pieces!

NightNerd, BSN, RN

Specializes in Med-surg/tele. Has 7 years experience.

17 minutes ago, Sour Lemon said:

Two in a row was my absolute limit when I worked full time. I’ve never had an employer who routinely?scheduled staff for more than that unless they knew that person preferred it.?
I did get scheduled for three shifts in a row once upon a time, but I let them know right away that I would be feeling sick by the third day- for sure. They changed it.?

Right?! And it isn't even a lie - getting out of bed that third morning is physically and spiritually agonizing.

NurseScribe

Specializes in Psyche Nursing, Med/Surg, LTAC.

Three was my limit. I have worked with people who did 7 twelve-hour shifts on, then had 7 days off....and I don't know how they did it.? I worked four days in a row a few times and the fourth day was kind of a blur. But different people have different tolerances. The real question is, are you going to get at least two days off after it? because you will need at least one day for downtime/recovery.?

Michellelizz

Specializes in Labour & Delivery. Has 2 years experience.

Is 4 in a row not common where you guys all work? Our full time lines are 4 on, 5 off....

CalicoKitty, BSN, RN

Specializes in Med-Surg, Geriatrics, Wound Care. Has 9 years experience.

I enjoyed 3s.. Work some days and be done with the rest. I didn't do to many 4s, since that would require weekends. Since a lot of my old coworkers were religious, my required "weekend" shifts were almost always Sunday nights. So, often it would be a SMT schedule. Prep for procedure, see them the next?night, and well, Tuesday was admissions..... The only times I worked sat/sundays was if I were scheduling a "vacation", I'd work SMT-off off off WEEKEND off off off - RFS...? I literally took no "vacation" days for a whole year because I did my scheduling like that.. Included trips to Europe and across the country. ??

AceOfHearts<3

Specializes in Critical care.

I hate 3 in a row and only work that if I absolutely can’t help it (or if it’s for a trip, which wouldn’t be the case right now). I hit a wall come 3pm on day 3 and there is no way I’d be able to work 4 12 hour shifts in a row. I’ve worked an extra weekend shift multiple times before to split up 3 in a row. If?I’m scheduled Saturday-Monday, then Wednesday, Thursday I often find it easy to swap Monday for the next Saturday (although it can stink working 2 Saturdays in a row it’s typically worth it for me). Most of the time, unless I have an appointment or something going on,?my only schedule request is no 3 in a row and my manager who does the schedule knows that. I would definitely be letting them know that 4 in a row is no good for the future.?

I just did 4 in a row and thought I was going to lose my mind. ?3 is my limit for sanity. ?I generally like 2 on 3 off. ?

NightNerd, BSN, RN

Specializes in Med-surg/tele. Has 7 years experience.

2 hours ago, NurseScribe said:

Three was my limit. I have worked with people who did 7 twelve-hour shifts on, then had 7 days off....and I don't know how they did it.? I worked four days in a row a few times and the fourth day was kind of a blur. But different people have different tolerances. The real question is, are you going to get at least two days off after it? because you will need at least one day for downtime/recovery.?

Can't complain on that front, I do have a good chunk of days off after it. I think when I do three in a row, I'm pretty useless for at least?the first day and a half afterward (and, like I said, a bear - anybody just want to scream any time someone even talks to you after a stretch of shifts???). That's more what I'm dreading - the recovery time I'm going to need and can't really afford right now, rather than the actual four in a row. Still learning to completely leave work at work, I guess.

@Michellelizz?gosh, yeah, most of the time three in a row is the longest stretch I or my coworkers end up working. One nurse I knew fondly remembered skiing six in a row during the Summer so she could get in a week of beach time between. I suppose a regular set of five days off together would be pretty great!

juan de la cruz, MSN, RN, NP

Specializes in APRN, Adult Critical Care, General Cardiology. Has 27 years experience.

Could you try to switch with someone? We work 3 12's a week as well (as NP's) and though I like the consistency of having the same ICU patients in a row, I feel like a?4th 12hr shift in a row would be too much unless I asked for it.? No way I would do that on a night shift either but luckily I don't do nights anymore.

MunoRN, RN

Specializes in Critical Care. Has 10 years experience.

My preference is actually for six?12's in a row (followed by 8 off).? I'm curious how many people who prefer to work no more than 3 in a row work days vs nights.

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